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ربي يجزاك الجنة ويفتحها بوجهك دنيا واخرة

[lo0lla]

اغث من هالماده مامر علي الى الان من درست اعوذ بالله طويله وكلها تكرار وحوسه ومدري وش فايدتها لي شهر عجزت عجزت اخلصها صار يجيني النوم من الملل اول المحاضرات جدا صعبه وصعوبتها انها ثقيله ولامافيها صعوبه ماادري من كثر النقاط اللي فيها والحشو والمحاضرات طويله تطفشيارب اعديها ياكريم
وقت الاختبار محاصرين قبلها بيوم اختبار ومافيه وقت للمذاكره ابد

[ayosha]

lecture 5 part 2

1) what was at the centre of Horace's ideas ?
sensibility

2) who said the following “neither the ability nor the knowledge to keep the duly assigned functions and tones” of poetry should not be “hailed as a poet.”?
Horace’s

3) where was this principle announced ?
in line 86 of the Ars Poetica

4) is that the only place we see it ?
no it is assumed everywhere in Horace’s writing

5) who does Horace mean when he talks about the laws of composition and style, his model of excellence that he wants Roman poets to imitate ?
the Greeks

6) what do we mean by “sophisticated” tastes?
Greek books

7) what do we mean by the “vulgar?
the rustic and popular

8) what tool does Horace us to separate the two ?
sensibility”

9)who said “I hate the profane crowd and keep it at a distance,”?
Horace

10) how did Horace feel about the popular culture of his day?
he hated it

11) where can we see that ?
is apparent in his “Letter to Augustus”

12) what is Latium ?
latin

13) in his letter to Augustus what does he mean by venom?
Roman culture

14)what brought the Romans to Greece?
a relationship of force and conquest

15) what do we mean by As soon as Greece was captive, however, it held its conqueror captive?
it captivated them with its nicely preserved culture (books

16) how does Horace feel about everyday culture ?
Horace shows prejudice to the culture of everyday people

17)did he know that the culture in the greece books was itself popular culture?
no he did not

18)what did Horace equate the preserved Greek culture (books) with?
elegance

19) what did he equate the popular culture of his own time with?
venom

20)was Horace alone in this hatred of the popular culture?
no,hatred of the popular culture of his day was widespread among Latin authors

21)what did poetry mean for Horace and his contemporaries?
it meant written monuments that would land the lucky poet’s name on a library shelf next to the great Greek names

22) who said “I will not die entirely,” , “some principal part of me yet evading the great Goddess of Burials?
Horace

23) what was That great part of him?
his books

24) was Horace’s poetic practice rooted in everyday life?
no to was not

25) was Greek poetry rooted in everyday life ?
yes it was

26)why did Horace read and reread the Iliad?
in search of, as he put it, what was bad what was good, what was useful, and what was not

27)what cultures would divide future European societies?
“official” and “popular”

28) who started them?
Horace

29) what can we say about the “duly assigned functions and tones” of poetry that Horace spent his life trying to make poets adhere to?
they were a mould for an artificial poetry with intolerant overtone

30) what are Horace’s ideas on poetry based on?
an artificial distinction between a “civilized” text-based culture and a “vulgar” oral one

31) are those distinctions accepted today ?
no they are not

32)what does Horace urge the Romans to do ?
to imitate the Greeks and follow in their footsteps

33)who said “Study Greek models night and day?
Horace

34) where did he say that ?
in the Ars Poetica


بعض المعلومات من شرح الدكتور

[ayosha]

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة nsbn

الله يوفقك ويكتب لك الاجر اخت عيوشه استمري

امين ويوفقك

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة فتاة الخبر

ربي يجزاك الجنة ويفتحها بوجهك دنيا واخرة

امين ويجزاك الف خير

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة lo0lla

اغث من هالماده مامر علي الى الان من درست اعوذ بالله طويله وكلها تكرار وحوسه ومدري وش فايدتها لي شهر عجزت عجزت اخلصها صار يجيني النوم من الملل اول المحاضرات جدا صعبه وصعوبتها انها ثقيله ولامافيها صعوبه ماادري من كثر النقاط اللي فيها والحشو والمحاضرات طويله تطفشيارب اعديها ياكريم
وقت الاختبار محاصرين قبلها بيوم اختبار ومافيه وقت للمذاكره ابد

الله يعيننا عليها فعلا
حاولي تسمعين المحاضره صحيح طويله بس تستفيدين
بعدين ارجعي اقرئي المحاضره
وان شاءالله تسهل عليك

[ayosha]

حليت الأسئلة بس بصراحة مو متأكدة من الحل وفي فقرات مالقيت لها حل
طبعا مومعناتها مو موجودة بس يمكن عشان ما بعد نخلص المنهج
بس ياليت احد يراجعها ويحل الفقرات الغير محلولة
ان شاء الله بعد ما اخلص من المحاضرات ال 14 براجع حلها

[welo12]

رائع بمعنى الكلمة وشكرا ع المجهود الجميل
استمري ماعرفت اذاكرها الا بالاسئلة وتحمست للمذاكرة
شكرا

[Sitah.Alotaibi]

اشكرك اختي عيوش على هذا الجهد الرائع و الله يكتب اجرك و يوفقك
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صراحة حبيت المادة بس عيبها الحشوو الزايد فقررت استغني عن الحشووو و اركز على المهم و لا تنسوون اسئلة الاعوام 80% جاي منها بس بطريقة السؤال جواب و الجواب سؤاال كما حصل في مادة الادب في عصر النهضة و الله يسهل علينا وعليكم كل عسير

[فيينا]

يعطيتس العافية عزيزتي عيوش الله لايحرمك الاجر , انا من رايي لاتحلينها خليها عشان افضل لكل الطلبة اللي يذكروان المادة واذا خلصو من المذاكرة يطبعون الاسئلة , ويجربون يختبرون انفسهم فيها , ويشوفون نتيجة مذكراتهم وعلشان لو خطاء يصححون لانفسهم , ومنها ترسخ الاسئلة عندهم لان المادة ثلاث ساعات ومن صالح جميع الطلاب والطالبات انهم على الاقل يجبيون درجة زينة فيها







والله يوفقنا ويكون ترم سهل على الجميع يارب

[ayosha]

lecture 5 part 3

what is the contradiction in Horace’s idea ?
Horace wants Roman authors to imitate the Greeks night and day and follow in their footsteps, but he does not want them to be mere imitators

2) what was his solution for this ?
only a set of metaphors with no practical steps (stay away from the round and vulgar)

3)can you see the same contradiction in Horace’s poetry ?
yes you can

4) who wrote the “Epistle to Maecenas “?
Horace

5) what does he complain about in the Epistle to Maecenas?
the slavish imitators who ape the morals and manners of their betters

6) who are their betters ?
the greeks

7)In the process of following and imitating the Greeks, Horace differentiates himself from what ?
those who “mimic” the ancients and slavishly attempt to reproduce them

8) what did he think of that kind of imitation ?
he did not have much esteem for that kind of imitation and saw his own practice to be different

9) who said “I was the first to plant free footstep on a virgin soil; I walked not where others trod. ?
Horace

10)In imitating the Greeks, Horace claims originality is this accurate?
the bold claim he makes of walking on virgin soil strongly contradicts the implied detail that the soil was not virgin, since Greek predecessors had already walked it

11) who said the precise nature of what Horace claims to have brought back from his “walk” is not clear “?
Thomas Greene

12) what does Horace advises the aspirant poet in Ars Poetica ?
to make his tale believable

13)who said “If you want me to cry, mourn first yourself, then your misfortunes will hurt me” ?
Horace

14) what does he mean by make the tale believable ?
If you depict a coward, Horace advises, make the depiction close to a real person who is a coward
But Horace only had a stylistic feature in mind.

15) who said Horace could not even think of poetry, all poetry, as an imitation, the way the idea is expressed in Book X of the Republic, or in Aristotle’s Poetics ?
Craig La Drière

16)Horace’s ideas about imitating the Greeks and about poetry imitating real life models were both what?
imprecise

17) what affect will they have on Europe?
they will become very influential in shaping European art and literature

18) what did Horace use the principles of taste and “sensibility for?
to distinguish what he thought was “civilized” from “uncivilized” poetry

*19) what will those principals be instrumental in shaping ?
instrumental in shaping the European distinction between official high culture and popular low one

20)Horace’s ideas helped form the conception of what ?
literature and poetry as national monuments and trophies

21) Poetry in Horace’s text was subordinated to what ?
to oratory and the perfection of self-expression

22) who is reduced to classroom examples of correct speaking for rhetoricians to practice with ?
Homer and Sophocles

23)what does the idea of following the Greeks result in in the opinion of
Thomas Greene ?
it magnified the temporal and cultural distance with them

24) who wrote Institutio Oratoria ?
Quintilian

25) Quintilian was the leading teacher of what ?
the leading teacher of rhetoric in Rome

26) when was this?
From 68 to 88 C.E

27)why did he write the Institutio ?
to help in the training of orators


Sometimes Quintilian justifies the imitation of the Greeks , but still thinks its dangerous

28) what are the two contradictory positions Quintilian advocates ?
1)that progress could be achieved only by those who refuse to follow, hence the undesirability of imitating the Greeks
2)Quintilian continues to advocate imitation, and goes on to elaborate a list of precepts to guide writers to produce “accurate” imitations

29) who said The imitator should consider carefully whom to imitate and he should not limit himself to one model only?
Quintilian

30)what did Seneca do ?
he singled out the process of transformation that takes place when bees produce honey or when food, after it is eaten, turns into blood and tissue


31) what did Seneca explore ?
the process of mollification and its chemistry

32)Latin authors never discuss poetry or literature as an imitation (mimesis) but as what ?
as an imitation of the Greeks

33)why aren't Latin authors familiar with Plato’s and Aristotle’s analysis of poetry ?
The Poetics or Republic III and X do not seem to have been available to the Romans

34)Latin authors used poetry and literature for two things , what are they ?
- To improve eloquence
- To sing the national glories of Rome and show off its culture.

[ayosha]

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة welo12

رائع بمعنى الكلمة وشكرا ع المجهود الجميل
استمري ماعرفت اذاكرها الا بالاسئلة وتحمست للمذاكرة
شكرا

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Sitah.Alotaibi

اشكرك اختي عيوش على هذا الجهد الرائع و الله يكتب اجرك و يوفقك
_____
صراحة حبيت المادة بس عيبها الحشوو الزايد فقررت استغني عن الحشووو و اركز على المهم و لا تنسوون اسئلة الاعوام 80% جاي منها بس بطريقة السؤال جواب و الجواب سؤاال كما حصل في مادة الادب في عصر النهضة و الله يسهل علينا وعليكم كل عسير

امين ويوفقك
حاولي تقرئينها بتركيز لو مرة عشان يكون عندك خلفية عنها كاملة
الله يوفقنا

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة فيينا

يعطيتس العافية عزيزتي عيوش الله لايحرمك الاجر , انا من رايي لاتحلينها خليها عشان افضل لكل الطلبة اللي يذكروان المادة واذا خلصو من المذاكرة يطبعون الاسئلة , ويجربون يختبرون انفسهم فيها , ويشوفون نتيجة مذكراتهم وعلشان لو خطاء يصححون لانفسهم , ومنها ترسخ الاسئلة عندهم لان المادة ثلاث ساعات ومن صالح جميع الطلاب والطالبات انهم على الاقل يجبيون درجة زينة فيها







والله يوفقنا ويكون ترم سهل على الجميع يارب

الله يعافيك ويجزاك خير
موجودة نسخة مو محلولة بموضوع الاسئلة نفسها
وحلو قبل الاختبار يكون عندنا الاجوبة الصحيحه نحل الاولى ونقارن حلنا
مانصير ندور الحل الأكيد بيوم الاختبار
بس فكرتك جميلة