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قديم 2013- 12- 7   #391
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درما القرن 17


شعبة الثلاثاء الساعة 12 .....اختبارنا الاحد صح ولا لا ؟ .....وفي اي وقت

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قديم 2013- 12- 7   #392
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بنات اختبار oral مع شموخ الفياض كيف طريقته ؟
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قديم 2013- 12- 7   #393
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السلام عليكم بنااات و آآآسفى على التأخير

بالنسبة للاختبار للي كانت مع د.حصة بتختبر الكويز الأسبوع هذا اللي يبدأ بكرة

كلن بشعبتها اللي الحين تاخذ دراما ماعدا شعبة الأحد ماني متأكدة لأنكم اختبرتو كويو الدراما الأسبوع اللي راح

فمصيركم مجهول ما أقدر أككدلكم انه الاختبار بكرة

و بالنسبة لجزئية الشعر أنا رجعت سألتها قالت كل القصااايد اللي بعد الميدترم و كنت حااااضرة يوم الثلاثاء

و سألتها بنفس اليوم كتأكيد .
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قديم 2013- 12- 7   #394
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و دراما شعبة الثلاثاء الساعة 12

اختبارنا الثلاثاء بنفس وقت المحااضرة هي كتبت اعلان عند مكتبها انه كلن بشعبتها و مع التواااريخ.

و طبعا لا تنسون كويز الشعر بيصير معاااه ,, لأنه حرااام أحس ,, الدكتورة مبلغة بس البنات للي حظرو الاضافية يوم الثلاثاء والباقي ما يدرون .
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قديم 2013- 12- 7   #395
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الصورة الرمزية مرشدة مغرورة
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عدد الـنقـاط : 630
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مرشدة مغرورة is a name known to allمرشدة مغرورة is a name known to allمرشدة مغرورة is a name known to allمرشدة مغرورة is a name known to allمرشدة مغرورة is a name known to allمرشدة مغرورة is a name known to all
بيانات الطالب:
الكلية: كلية الآداب
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التخصص: اللغة الانجليزية
المستوى: المستوى الثامن
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رد: ENDLISH STUDENT LEVEL 5 >> 3rd year first semester

و دراما شعبة الثلاثاء الساعة 12

اختبارنا الثلاثاء بنفس وقت المحااضرة هي كتبت اعلان عند مكتبها انه كلن بشعبتها و مع التواااريخ.

و طبعا لا تنسون كويز الشعر بيصير معاااه ,, لأنه حرااام أحس ,, الدكتورة مبلغة بس البنات للي حظرو الاضافية يوم الثلاثاء والباقي ما يدرون .
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قديم 2013- 12- 7   #396
مرشدة مغرورة
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الصورة الرمزية مرشدة مغرورة
الملف الشخصي:
رقم العضوية : 81420
تاريخ التسجيل: Wed Jul 2011
العمر: 30
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الـجنــس : أنـثـى
عدد الـنقـاط : 630
مؤشر المستوى: 65
مرشدة مغرورة is a name known to allمرشدة مغرورة is a name known to allمرشدة مغرورة is a name known to allمرشدة مغرورة is a name known to allمرشدة مغرورة is a name known to allمرشدة مغرورة is a name known to all
بيانات الطالب:
الكلية: كلية الآداب
الدراسة: انتظام
التخصص: اللغة الانجليزية
المستوى: المستوى الثامن
 الأوسمة و جوائز  بيانات الاتصال بالعضو  اخر مواضيع العضو
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و هذا التفريغ اللي نازل بالجزئية اللي بنختبها , وأحسها مرة مختصرة يبيلنا نبحث بزيادة ,,

ناقصها the rape of the lock

و

paradise lost أحسها مرررررة نااااقصة ,,





Cavalier poets:
The
re are two generation in the group of the Metaphysical poets; an older generation and a younger generation. The older is known as the metaphysical poet (John Donne- George Herbert) Andrew Marvell falls between the two. He is a good example of a poet who carries the seeds of the two stages.
The younger generation is the Cavalier poets. They are writing poetry that is carrying some influence of the metaphysical. They are writing poetry dealing with love, fun and joy. They were writing for the elite. We can speak of these people as being courtiers - writing for the elite. They are referred to as Ben’s sons (the sons of Ben Jonson) he is the father of the Cavalier poets. He presented then with an example to follow.
They have their own unique way of writing. Their writings are very similar to their life and to their interest. They are writing their own interest. Their own views were reflected in the society.
The main theme they are writing on is women- love affairs. We find war( civil war) there and biblical references.
War is a prestigious action that they usually take to attract women to them. They are courtiers, knights- brave, courageous. They are enjoying special characteristics. But it does not mean that they are completely different from the metaphysical.
When we read them, we find this easy language- similar to the metaphysical.
We need to know what is common between them and the metaphysical- what characteristics they share with the older generation and what differences they have.
They are writing about fun, love, women and joy which are taken from 16th century courtier writers. They are still writing under the same umbrella of the metaphysical poetry. we find their poetry written in an argumentative style- questions are being answered- discussions, conclusions, resolutions are to be set. There is also the simplicity of language with simplicity of structure. We find the structure very easy and direct. It is because of the simplicity of the subject matter. The subject matter has straightforward meaning. It is not complicated. They did not intend the structure to go beyond the apparent sentence meaning, the surface meaning of the sentence like the metaphysical where we find layers of meaning. The language is simple, direct and straightforward but the structure is simpler than the metaphysical.
Their images are sometimes taken from science and religion.
These are generally speaking the characteristics of the Cavalier poets.
We find their poetry interesting. They wrote a lot of songs, lyrics. It is poetry that is written in an easy language and designed to be sung. It should be short, light in meaning and simple in language.



How could we read John Suckling and Richard Lovelace as Cavalier poets?
How to approach the poems critically as Cavalier poetry?
They are two young poets descending from luxurious families. They are highly educated. Their language, though it is simple, it is communicative, suggestive. They are capable of creating and building images.
The Cavalier poets have their own characteristics but they are sharing some of the metaphysical like the conceits and some of their strange images.
There is the love issue which is to be traced in different approach.
It is divine love, about devotion to God. We find male-female relationship. There is the idea of love.
With the metaphysical there is love, death, science, religion, relations. The Cavilers are mainly speaking about love and wars which end up with death. To communicate these themes, they are using luxurious ways of speaking about love and war. War is accredited to their characters. They are thinking of themselves as being braves, credited with honor. This honor will attract their beloved more.
With the metaphysical, there is love but there is no failure. There is separation that is intended. There is devotion, human-God relationship
With the cavilers there is love and failure. There is no devotion, no commitment. There is no deep interest. Love for them is light emotion, passing by relations. It is love for fun.
Both styles are argumentative.
The themes are recurrently here and there but the treatment is different by the young generation and the old generation.
Nature is there. It is used to serve their feelings.




Song
Why so pale and wan fond lover? Pale شاحب-ضعيف
Prithee why so pale?
Will, when looking well can't move her,
Looking ill prevail?
Prithee why so pale?

Why so dull and mute young sinner?
Prithee why so mute?
Will, when speaking well can't win her,
Saying nothing do't?
Prithee why so mute?

Quit, quit for shame, this will not move, خجل-خزي
This cannot take her;
If of herself she will not love,
Nothing can make her;
The devil take her. الشيطان
• Write a kind of evaluation of the title- it is a song
• Give an early general meaning of the text
• Do a kind of critical reading- what is the theme- how are the themes communicated to the reader- through the images, structure, the rhyme-
• The speaker is addressing his friend. He is in pain and he is sad because he has failed in love. He is addressing the lover.
• He is drawing a number of images. In the first one, we are in front of someone who is in pain . This is due to his sadness. This communicates to us the idea of being sad. It is a mixed image. He is in pain because he failed his love.
• There are three characters, lover, beloved and a friend. The beloved is absent. The addressee is the friend who is the lover. The speaker is his friend.
• The structure is simple.
• The conclusion is harshقاس-جاف enough to dismiss يصرف-ينبذ-يطرد this lady from his life.
• He is not advising his friend to forget her, but he is cursing يسب-يلعن her by saying that the devil takes her.
• There is repetition of “ why” and the “ w’ sound. “well-why- won…
There is alliteration الجناس الاستهلالي. .This is part of the poetic language. Alliteration is suitable for the emotional case of his friend. There is sadness. There is no harshnessخشونة-فظاظة . It is an impression of sadness. The language is smooth and simple. They use all the tools possible in their hands to draw the image. We are in front of an image of a sad person who is suffering failure اخفاق in love.
• We have three stanzas. In each stanza, there is an image.
1. The first image is an image who is pale.
2. The second image is of someone who is dull غبي-كسول-ممل-فاتر and muteأبكم .
3. The third image is the image of a devil who is avenging ينتقم-يثأر this failureالمخفق by taking her.
In one stanza- the fist stanza- of five lines, we have four questions. It is an argumentative style, questioning and answering. He comes to a conclusion- it is a curse. This is the idea of a devil joining man. This is part of their superstitious خرافي- metaphysical. It is related to a superstitious idea that was common at that time.
It is an open end discussion. It is argumentative. Here are 8 questions in 15 lines.
It is a song= short poem speaks about emotion. It is short. Its language is simple and light.










To Lucasta, Going to the Wars
Tell me not, sweet, I am unkind,
That from the nunnery
Of thy chaste breast, and quiet mind,
To war and arms I fly.

True; a new mistress now I serve,
The first foe in the field;
And with a sterner faith embrace,
A sword, a horse, a shield.

Yet this inconstancy is such,
As thou too shalt adore;
I could not love thee (Dear) so much,
Love'd I not honor more.

• The theme is about leaving his beloved. Through this theme of departing his love, to war, he is describing the characteristics of knightsالفرسان.
He does not prefer war to her to be credited for more love. He is trying to credit himself for more honor so that he will be loved stronger by her. He is aware واع-مدرك of his responsibility to his country, to his nation. Therefore, he is ready to leave her to do his duty towards his country ending up with gaining more love of her. He is hitting two goals at the same time.
1. These two goals are serving his nation, showing commitment تعهد towards his country and
2. winning her heart. He is leaving her to war because he loves her. this separation in their life will give them chance to be together forever. This is to enjoy everlasting love.
Theme: It is love and war. War is a credit in the life of the caviler poets.
The country for him is but the woman he is in love with. The country is the mother- land- female. Whatever is said about land is said about female. He is ready to die for his country. This is communicated to us through this wonderful language and the images. Going to war to defend his country, to defend the land is more important for him than to stay with his beloved. If he loves his country properly, then, he loves her properly. If he defends his country, he will be honored. People will look at him as being an honorable man. Eventually, she will love him more. He will be a star. He wants the maximum honor, to gain more love from her side. This is said through the poetic way, the poetic language, argumentative style and a number of images. This is the beauty of poetry.

• Go and find:
how the civil war has been initiated- started in England?
• Who was responsible for that?
Ther e was a clash between James I and Richard II on the issue of finance. The main clash was between the parliament- that was not representative of people- and the king who had the divine right- the idea to be elected by God. The king asked the Parliament for a loan and they refused. A clash had happened. The king was executed. The country remained for 18 years without a monarch. Cromwell- the top of the Parliament- was running the country for 18 years.
Before reading Paradise Lost, read about Milton. He was born in 1608- very early in the 17th century. He practiced influence on literature at that time. He participated in the issue of Reformation Movement. He wrote number of pamphlets. He influenced people through his literary background. He was a bookworm. He read a lot. He knew different languages, Latin and Italian .when he writes, he is equipped with this vast knowledge, rich vocabulary, examples from the ancient of the Greek, modern examples of the French and the English issues. He used to improve his knowledge and revise his poetry. He was against the religious trends. He knows that it was part of the hypocritical society. It was politically manipulated.
The idea of religion is clear in his poetry- do not misuse and manipulate religion to improve your political issue. Religion should be there in full control but not to be manipulated to serve politics.
One of his strange ideas concerning the world is that he thinks that the world is for evil. There is evil in the world. Man should struggle to survive. That is what we find in Paradise Lost. There is Satan who is seducing man, pushing him to do evil. One should not submit himself to evil. He should struggle to survive. He believes that one of the ways to win the war against evil is to gain knowledge. Ignorant people are easily attracted, seduced, affected. Knowledge is a tool, a sward to defeat evil.
It was an answer for the church that was controlling the life of people. They did not have enough liberty to discuss the bible.
It does not mean that Milton was not religious. He was religious and he uses many Biblical references. “ Paradise Lost” depends mainly on a Biblical story. It is the story of Adam and Eve- the story of disobedience- they did not obey the instructions of God. It was evoked by Satan. They were seduced by Satan to commit this first sin, convincing them to eat from the forbidden fruit as it will bring them happiness and pleasure. The reason was being punished and descended from Eden.
What should you know in this poem:
• Short background of the age
• Short background of the poet
• The poem itself
- as an epic –
What is an epic? It is a long narrative poem written in a highly elevated language. it deals with the history of the nation. It is allegorical. He is speaking about something hitting at something else. He is writing on the dismissing of man from heaven. This lost paradise is nothing by the lost England. He is warning people if they followed their Satan, they will lose their Eden- their nation.
This is a biblical story used to preach people politically- biblical story used for political preaching.
When he is writing, he is carrying these wariness, the suffering of his country of both politics and religion. He has managed to join them together in one poem- in an epic.
He is asking many questions, discussing so many issues.
The epic involves the history of the nation. There are a lot of adventures, names, events, dates of the history of the nation.
He started a poem entitled ‘ Paradise Regained” regaining paradise can be only through a kind of settlement, regent and purgation.
With these many cultures, different languages, awareness and experience with politics and religion, Milton was capable of writing such a wonderful great epic.
First thirty lines , as an epic writer, he is speaking about his own task as a poet- what he is going to do.
Then, he is listing a number of places where the Muse used to inspire great writers.
He is adding historical dimension to this piece of literature by placing it, speaking about the Muse inspiration in the holy places.
He asks the muse to choose any place that he used to inspire great people and inspire him there. He says to the Muse that he knows a lot.
He is adding political dimension to his work. He is showing that what he is going to do is something divine. He needs an inspiration that is not common to all inspirations of poets.
In book I- he ends by justifying the way to God, sin, punishment. Then he discusses who is responsible for this sin.
• Characters – Satan is the most perfect character drawn by Milton. He is the controller. – Adam- Eve as an emotional character.
• Setting – it is a burning
lake- hell

التعديل الأخير تم بواسطة مرشدة مغرورة ; 2013- 12- 7 الساعة 07:43 PM
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قديم 2013- 12- 9   #397
مرشدة مغرورة
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مرشدة مغرورة is a name known to allمرشدة مغرورة is a name known to allمرشدة مغرورة is a name known to allمرشدة مغرورة is a name known to allمرشدة مغرورة is a name known to allمرشدة مغرورة is a name known to all
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السلاااااااااام عليكم صبايا

امتحان كويز الشعر لشعب الأحد الثلاثاء و الأربعاء تأجل للأسبوع القادم كل في محاضرتها

و هذا للي كانت بالشعر و الحين تاخذ دراما

و هذا كلام الدكتورة على تويتر , و بالتوفيييييييييييييق
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قديم 2013- 12- 9   #398
ورده ذبلانه
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ورده ذبلانه will become famous soon enough
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ممكن تعطينا حساب الكتوره بتويتر
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قديم 2013- 12- 9   #399
Sanfoor
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بنات كيف كانت اسأله دكتوره حصه للشعر ١٧ ؟

الله يعافيكم ردو
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رد: ENDLISH STUDENT LEVEL 5 >> 3rd year first semester

ادب 17 الشعر ايش المتيريال اللي ذاكرتوا منه ؟؟
وايش كانت الأسئله؟




وبعد ايش قصة المحاضره اللي لازم نحضرها مع مرشدنا الأكاديمي؟!!
لازم نحضرها؟ ومين المرشد حقنا؟؟؟
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