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ѕυℓтαη · 2014- 5- 10

Book X of the Republic الكتاب الخامس من كتاب الجمهورية
فكرة الكتاب انه جاب قرار شهير وهو منع الشعراء والشعر في المدينة
ولان الحضارات الاوربية كانت دائما تقدر الشعر والادب والفن فكان صعب عليهم استيعاب هذا القرار
Plato Bans the Poet
Christopher Janaway لخص ردود افعال الغرب تجاه منع افلاطون الشعر
“They protest too much: Plato is assailed with ‘gross illogicality and unfairness’, ‘passionate, hopelessly bad arguments’, ‘trivial or sophistic arguments which he cannot himself regard as conclusive’, and a position which is ‘quite unacceptable’ (how dare he!) – but then again it is said that he is only ‘enjoying himself by over-stating his case’, that a ‘comparison with other dialogues makes it quite clear that [these sections of the Republic] do not contain his considered opinion’, and that we should ‘construct a nobler and more generous theory of Aesthetic Arts’ on his behalf. Perhaps there is a hidden ‘commendation of good art’ even within Book 10 itself, or is Plato ‘struggling after a theory of aesthetics which does not find full expression before Hegel’
البعض كتب حوارات خيالية مع افلاطون ليشرح له خطورة قرارة وليخبرة عن مدى جمال التصور الاوربي عن الفن
“We may be tempted to imagine teaching Plato this concept of ours, and patiently leading him out of error: ‘You see, these things that you are attacking are Art. If something is Art it invariably has the following value…and does not really need any further justification.’ (‘Thank you for clearing that up’, he might reply -…)”

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ѕυℓтαη متميز كلية الأداب _قسم الأنجلش الملف الشخصي: رقم العضوية : 148855 تاريخ التسجيل: Mon Jul 2013 المشاركات: 1,994 الـجنــس : ذكــر عدد الـنقـاط : 25777 مؤشر المستوى: 95 بيانات الطالب: الكلية: كلية الاداب الدراسة: انتساب التخصص: لغة انجليزية المستوى: خريج جامعي	رد: [ مجلس النقد الأدبي ] تجمعنا لمادة النقد الأدبي Book X of the Republic الكتاب الخامس من كتاب الجمهورية فكرة الكتاب انه جاب قرار شهير وهو منع الشعراء والشعر في المدينة ولان الحضارات الاوربية كانت دائما تقدر الشعر والادب والفن فكان صعب عليهم استيعاب هذا القرار Plato Bans the Poet Christopher Janaway لخص ردود افعال الغرب تجاه منع افلاطون الشعر “They protest too much: Plato is assailed with ‘gross illogicality and unfairness’, ‘passionate, hopelessly bad arguments’, ‘trivial or sophistic arguments which he cannot himself regard as conclusive’, and a position which is ‘quite unacceptable’ (how dare he!) – but then again it is said that he is only ‘enjoying himself by over-stating his case’, that a ‘comparison with other dialogues makes it quite clear that [these sections of the Republic] do not contain his considered opinion’, and that we should ‘construct a nobler and more generous theory of Aesthetic Arts’ on his behalf. Perhaps there is a hidden ‘commendation of good art’ even within Book 10 itself, or is Plato ‘struggling after a theory of aesthetics which does not find full expression before Hegel’ البعض كتب حوارات خيالية مع افلاطون ليشرح له خطورة قرارة وليخبرة عن مدى جمال التصور الاوربي عن الفن “We may be tempted to imagine teaching Plato this concept of ours, and patiently leading him out of error: ‘You see, these things that you are attacking are Art. If something is Art it invariably has the following value…and does not really need any further justification.’ (‘Thank you for clearing that up’, he might reply -…)”